STATE OF THE AREA DEBATE
REPORT of the State of the Area Debate held on
11th June, 2007 at Cowbridge Comprehensive School, Lower
Hall.
Present:
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Councillor Ms. M.E. Alexander
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(Leader) - Vale of Glamorgan Council
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Councillor N. Moore
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(Deputy Leader and Cabinet Member Finance, ICT
and Property) - Vale of Glamorgan Council
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Councillor N.J. Gibbs
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(Cabinet Member Education and Lifelong
Learning)
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Councillor R.F. Curtis
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(Cabinet Member Visible and Building
Services)
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Councillor C.J. Williams
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(Cabinet Member Planning and
Transportation)
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Councillor G. John
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(Cabinet Member Leisure and Tourism)
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Councillor S.C. Egan
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(Cabinet Member Social and Care Services)
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Councillor Mrs. M. Randall
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(Cabinet Member Human Resources)
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Councillor Mrs. V.M. Hartrey
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(Cabinet Member Legal and Public
Protection)
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Councillors Mrs. C.V.L. Clay, G.A. Cox,
T.H. Jarvie and G.C. Kemp.
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Councillor Moore welcomed all present, and
thanked the audience for having attended.
Councillor Moore informed the audience that
the composition of the Cabinet had, last December, changed and it
had been decided to adopt a fresh approach to the conduct of the
State of the Area Debates with local residents being instrumental
in drawing up the agenda. A period of 30 minutes would be
devoted to each of the three topics which had evoked the greatest
interest. A general question and answer session would then be
held. Should there be insufficient time for all questions to
be answered, members of the audience were requested to complete
questionnaires and deposit them in a box at the rear of the Hall
whereupon written answers would be provided in due course.
The three topics to be discussed at the Debate
would therefore be:
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Roads and Traffic
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Schools and Education
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Waste and Recycling.
Roads and Traffic
Councillor Curtis referred to the state of
roads and pavement repairs. He referred to a £300m. backlog
of repairs in Wales. A recent survey by the Welsh Assembly
Government had classed the Vale of Glamorgan Council as being one
of the best in Wales for the state of the highways in the area.
The Vale of Glamorgan Council intended to
spend more money this year on highways than had been the case last
year.
Councillor Curtis referred to the Llysworney
by-pass and informed those present that despite requests for
funding from the Welsh Assembly Government, no funding had been
forthcoming to date.
Councillor Curtis also referred to problems
with regard to traffic congestion and car parking issues within
Cowbridge, and advised that the Council had been considering ideas
for alternative parking within the town and that these
considerations were ongoing.
The following question and answer session then
ensued:
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Question
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Answer
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Mr. Barlow referred to congestion parking
within Cowbridge. Mr. Barlow stated that the large car park
was used by many people who worked in the town which represented an
abuse of the facilities.
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There was general agreement with Mr. Barlow’s
comments. This was a matter that the Council would have to
consider and could involve a range of options, including charging /
enforcement procedures / limiting the hours of parking.
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Mr. Holden referred to a possible solution in
that the public should be encouraged to share cars and to use
public transport. Mr. Holden also suggested that car parking
should be introduced in the Market area.
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A resident referred to the St. Athan
development and referred to the traffic problems that would
arise. The resident enquired if weight restrictions could be
introduced on the road to St. Mary’s.
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An assurance was given that the possibility of
the introduction of weight restrictions would be
investigated. However, it was pointed out that wherever
weight restrictions are imposed, an alternative route must be
available for road users.
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Jim Teague referred to an incomplete section
of work carried out under the Safe Routes to Schools Initiative on
the Cowbridge - St. Athan road at St. Mary Church. In view of
the increased use of this route as a result of the St. Athan
development, members of the public were concerned about road
safety. MPs had been contacted and had said this would be
designated a special route.
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The Council had been in discussion with a
number of residents on this matter. Part of the affected land
was unregistered, and any member of the audience who had knowledge
of who owned the land were asked to contact the Council.
Furthermore, a site visit at the site would be held soon.
On the wider St. Athan issue, it was reported
that work was ongoing as to how the site would be developed and the
Council was considering the wider strategic transport issues.
There would also be a need for a strategy to be developed in
respect of smaller roads, which could involve the use of weight
limits and physical restrictions.
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Howard Lewis referred to the 4 quarries in the
Western Vale and the use by HGVs of the B4264. Business at
the quarries would increase as a result of the St. Athan
development, and Mr. Lewis enquired as to how the traffic flow
would be controlled.
Mr. Lewis also enquired as to the timescale
for the submission of a planning application for the St. Athan
development.
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The resident was informed that there would be
2 planning applications. The Ministry of Defence was
currently negotiating with the Welsh Assembly Government on the
proposals and there was no definite date agreed for the submission
of planning applications.
With regard to the traffic issues in the area,
it was stated that it would be advantageous to encourage HGVs to
use alternative routes wherever possible. The problem in the
Western Vale was that there were no alternative routes to the
B4264. A meeting would soon be held with the Clerk of the
local Community Council to discuss the issue. One possible
solution may be for the local community to establish a voluntary
code with HGV road users.
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Schools and Education
Councillor Gibbs advised that the Council’s
Cabinet was committed to the building of a replacement school in
Cowbridge. Compulsory Purchase Order proceedings had been
initiated, and the Council had advertised in the European
Journal. Consultants would be appointed by September at the
latest.
A copy of a letter which would be sent to all
parents was distributed at the meeting.
It was stated that this was a very ambitious
scheme and was something that the Council was totally committed
to. It was intended that the new school would be opened in
2010 but that in the meanwhile, ongoing maintenance would be
carried out the older premises.
The following question and answer session then
ensued:
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Question
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Answer
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Linda Evans enquired as to the processes
involved and asked which development option was to be chosen and
would the facility be available for community use?
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It was explained that the purpose of the
initiative was to ensure that the school was fully fit for
purpose. A new school was not only to be built at Cowbridge
but also at two other comprehensive school sites within the
Vale.
Discussions about what could be afforded in
new Cowbridge School would be the subject of discussions with the
school.
It was planned that the School would be
available for community use 52 weeks of the year. Attempts
were being made to enhance the level of educational provision.
It was the intention of the Council to extend
the choice. The Council would be looking, in design terms, at
what could be provided. It had to be remembered that a “blank
cheque” was not available for the provision of a new comprehensive
school in Cowbridge but what would be provided would be a school
that the community would be proud of.
Councillor Moore stated that the Council would
be looking for the best design possible for a new school. If
it was possible that a swimming pool could be provided within the
funds available, this would be considered, but the establishment of
the school was of primary importance.
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A resident stated that Cowbridge does not have
a swimming pool at present. A swimming pool within the new
school for community use would be an asset.
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The resident was advised that the package
being put together by the Council for the funding of the three
replacement comprehensive schools had a shortfall of £36m.
Tenders were being sought at the present and the Council would soon
know the design elements of the projects.
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Councillor G. John stated that, as a former
pupil, he was disappointed to see the same equipment in the school
as had been there when he was a pupil. Councillor John
reminded those present that the provision of a swimming pool would
cost a huge amount of money not only to build but also to
run. Councillor John pointed out that the Metrix development
would involve facilities for community use. Finally,
Councillor John stated that the Vale of Glamorgan Cabinet was
committed to the provision of a replacement school in
Cowbridge.
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Martin Blaney welcomed the letter that was to
be distributed to the parents of pupils at Cowbridge Comprehensive
School. Mr. Blaney enquired as to any technical impediments
there may be to the provision of the new building and also enquired
as to how binding was the decision of the Vale of Glamorgan
Cabinet.
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Councillor N. Gibbs stated that the present
administration had been in power since December and had taken the
decision that the provision of the School Investment Strategy would
be the Council’s top priority. The present administration
would not go back on its decision.
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Hugh Morgan stated that he would be glad to
see the construction of the replacement school. Mr. Morgan
enquired if the Council would need to sell land, i.e. playing
fields, to fund the construction work.
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Councillor Moore stated that the playing
fields were owned by a Trust, not the Council. The Council
would go forward without having to sell the playing field
land. The Council would, obviously, have to look to sell some
land off to fund the project.
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A resident stated that the state of the whole
school was very poor and referred to parts of the building falling
off.
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Councillor Gibbs replied that routine
maintenance would continue to be done to the school whenever
necessary.
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Lesley O’Neill stated that the audience had
heard earlier about the state of the old equipment at the
school. Mr O’Neill’s children attended the school at present
and stated that if the Council had money available now, the
construction of the replacement school should commence
immediately.
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Councillor Gibbs stated that the Cabinet of
the Vale of Glamorgan Council represented the Vale as a
whole. The Cowbridge Comprehensive School was in the worst
condition and that is why it had been placed at the top of the
Council’s priorities.
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Ms. Burgess enquired if the 6th
Form building was going to be sold for apartments.
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No.
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A resident commended the decision of the
Council and welcomed the decision to build a school for the
future. The resident enquired as to why the plans being drawn
up for the school had not been done so by a Welsh company.
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The better school we build, the lower the
maintenance. Revenue expenditure is always a problem for
local government.
The Council has already undertaken many
surveys of the school sites as had been required by WAG. The
Council had employed the architects to support the Council’s bid to
WAG. The Council was not wasting money on design costs.
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Jim Teague stated that he understood the
Council’s educational funding level was the worst in Wales.
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The educational funding of a council depended
upon the standard spending assessment and the revenue support grant
and in recent years, the Council has spent the allocated standard
spending assessment monies allocated to education on the provision
of educational services. The Council delegated amongst the
greatest proportion of funding to the schools within Wales.
In conclusion, Councillor Alexander promised
those present that Cowbridge Comprehensive School would be
built.
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Waste and Recycling
Councillor Curtis stated that the issue of
waste and recycling was close to his heart. Councillor Curtis
referred to the issue of wheely bins and stated that the Council
had tried a pilot scheme in Barry.
The Council faced massive challenges ahead
with waste collection and recycling. The national target for
recycling was 40% and the Council was way behind this target at
present. With regard to wheely bins, it was stated that the
Council’s contract was coming to an end and a new contract would
promote recycling through a combination of educating the public
combined with enforcement powers. It was felt that it would
be very difficult to reach the higher standards required unless the
Council made the collection of waste and recycling simple.
The following question and answer session
ensued:
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Question
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Answer
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A resident, in referring to the recycling bins
used by the Council, stated that on windy days, the contents easily
blow away.
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At the time when the Council bought the
recycling boxes, it was necessary for certain materials to be
separated. Plastic / cardboard was too light for this and
ultimately blew away. A plea was made for the public to bear
with the Council as the method of collection would be changing.
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A resident stated that he had read recently
that much of the recycled waste could not in fact actually be
recycled and was taken to landfill sites. The resident
enquired if the Council could put out a more detailed list of what
was actually recyclable.
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The resident was asked to leave his name and
address and was told that he would receive a full list in due
course.
The audience were also advised that the
recycling contract could allow for up to 5% contamination. It
was reported that the area of Cowbridge recycles its rubbish very
well. Furthermore, it was stated that the Council ranked as
4th best recycler in Wales.
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Ms. Hiller stated that she was worried about
wheely bins. She travels to Cardiff often and has noticed
that people there often have difficulty moving their wheely bins
down their drives. Ms. Hiller felt that bin bags were the
best solution.
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A resident congratulated the Council on its
recycling efforts, especially the garden waste bags.
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A resident stated that they felt the Council’s
garden recycling process was second to none. They also
reminded the Councillors present of the litter pollution that
occurs on the beaches. Could the Council concentrate on
enforcement action?
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Councillor Curtis agreed with the comments
regarding enforcement action. Litter was an increasing
problem and society was throwing more and more away. Council
did carry out enforcement action and also sent out warnings for
litter. Enforcement action also takes place with regard to
dog fouling and fly tipping.
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A resident issued a vote of thanks for all the
men who worked at the Llandow amenity site and asked if a greater
efficiency could be made of the site.
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Councillor Moore agreed with the comments made
and stated that the Council needed to address this issue.
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A resident asked if the issue of waste/
recycling could be introduced into the school curriculum.
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Councillor Curtis said that the Council’s
staff do attend at schools to raise the issue.
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Councillor G. John advised that he is a
Councillor in Llantwit Major and was currently working on an
environmental campaign with schools and urged the schools in
Cowbridge to follow this lead.
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Jane Hayden congratulated the Council on its
waste / recycling policies. She stated that she did not want
wheely bins to be introduced. With regard to dog fouling,
Ms. Hayden stated that there was a shortage of dog fouling
bins in the Western Vale.
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There then followed an “open” session, and the
following question and answer session ensued:
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Answer
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Councillor Moore stated that he was aware of
the situation namely that an application had been made for the
holding of a rock concert of the 4th, 5th and
6th August with a maximum permitted attendance of 5000
people. The application included the supply of alcohol and
regulated entertainment. The application was currently the
subject of consultation and representations on the application
could be made up until 28th June. The application
would then be considered by the Council’s Licensing Sub-Committee
on 25th July, 2007. Councillor Moore stated that
he understood some 30 representations against the application and 1
in support had been received to date.
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Kim Roberts referred to the sports facilities
available for the children of Cowbridge. He stated that the
area had a wonderful outdoor sports facility on which some £160,000
had been spent. Mr. Roberts enquired if the facility was
being effectively used as he rarely saw anyone using it.
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The facility is controlled by the school and a
report had been requested on the utilisation of the facility.
The report would also include suggestions as to how the facility
could be promoted.
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Mr. Swayne referred to the state of disrepair
at Three Fields Park. Mr. Swayne had been under the
impression that the park would be brought up to standard in
April this year, but nothing had happened yet.
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A written reply would be provided to Mr.
Swayne.
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Mr. Swayne enquired as to the provision of
parking at the cattle market.
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Councillor C.J. Williams stated that the
future use of this area was yet to be determined.
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Ian Hyde referred to the footpath across the
fields which, if made more accessible, could lead to a reduction of
congestion in that the amount of traffic parking in Cowbridge Town
Centre would reduce.
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A resident referred to the provision of cycle
routes in the area.
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The Safe Routes to Schools initiatives has
recently been renamed Safe Routes for Communities by the Welsh
Assembly Government. The aim of the initiative was to provide
improved cycle paths and the Council would be drawing up travel
plans.
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Ms. Austin referred to a popular woodland near
to where she lived and enquired as to how this woodland could be
maintained. Ms. Austin stated that she did not know who owned
the land.
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If Ms. Austin provided details of the lands to
officers present at the meeting, efforts would be made to establish
the land ownership.
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Howard Lewis stated that some 25,000 Vale
residents were over the age of 65 and many would like to take walks
throughout the area. Mr. Lewis asked if access features for
the elderly could be borne in mind by the Council.
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Councillor Moore thanked all present for
having attended the meeting.
Councillor Moore stated that he was well aware
that the Council could not do everything right all of the time and
it was through meetings such as these that the Councillors received
valuable feedback from the members of the public, the comments of
which would be borne in mind in the future.