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STATE OF THE AREA DEBATE

 

REPORT of the State of the Area Debate held on 21st June, 2007 at The Llantonian Hall, Llantwit Major.

 

 

Present:

 

 

Councillor Ms. M.E. Alexander

(Leader) - Vale of Glamorgan Council

Councillor N. Moore

(Deputy Leader and Cabinet Member Finance, ICT and Property) - Vale of Glamorgan Council

Councillor R.F. Curtis

(Cabinet Member Visible and Building Services)

Councillor S.C. Egan

(Cabinet Member Social and Care Services)

Councillor N.J. Gibbs

(Cabinet Member Education and Lifelong Learning)

Councillor G. John

(Cabinet Member Leisure and Tourism)

Councillor Mrs. V. M. Hartrey

(Cabinet Member Legal and Public Protection)

Councillor Mrs. M. Randall

(Cabinet Member Human Resources)

Councillor C.J. Williams

(Cabinet Member Planning and Transportation)

 

 

Councillors Mrs. S.M. Bagstaff and J.W. Thomas

 

 

 

 

Councillor Moore welcomed all present and thanked the audience for having attending albeit on such a “wet evening”.  He informed the meeting that it was the last of the six State of the Area debates that had been held around the Vale. He advised that it had been decided to adopt a fresh approach to the conduct of the State of the Area debates with local residents being instrumental in drawing up the agenda.  A period of 30 minutes would be devoted to each of the three topics which had evoked the greatest interest resulting from a questionnaire that had been sent to residents.  A general question and answer session would then be held and should there be insufficient time for all questions to be answered members of the audience were requested to complete proformas available in the hall  and deposit them in the box at the rear of the hall whereupon written answers would be provided in due course.  Of the responses that had been received to submit items for discussion, 24% had opted for waste and recycling, 22% road traffic and 20% crime and community safety and as such these would be the three topics that would be discussed at the debate.

 

Waste and Recycling

 

Councillor R.F. Curtis stated that the results of the survey conducted by the Council had indicated that the issues of most concern to the residents of Llantwit Major were:

 

·                    promoting recycling

·                    litter

·                    composting.

 

The audience was informed that the Council currently recycled just over 30% of its waste which and had been given a ranking of 4th best out of the 22 councils in Wales for recycling.  As a result of European direction, all councils throughout the UK would have to reach recycling targets and the Vale of Glamorgan Council was trying consistently to improve its standards and Councillor Curtis reiterated that education had a strong part to play in promoting recycling and relaying the message to the community.  The audience was advised that in relation to the waste site at Llandow the Council was considering resiting to the local dredging site further up the road and with the possibility of providing an undercover facility.  It was explained that the current collection arrangements for recycling were based on an existing contract, a new contract would run from April 2008 and negotiations would take place on the terms of that contract which would include discussions on the introduction of mixed kerbside recycling from that date.  The Council had also recently adopted a fortnightly green waste kerbside collection and had projected that some 700 tonnes of green waste would be collected in the current year. 

 

The following question and answer session then ensured:

 

Questions

Answers

 

An article in the Western Mail stated that the Welsh Assembly Government was thinking of banning plastic supermarket bags.  If it comes in what are your views?

 

The Council currently provided green boxes and items should be placed in them without the plastic bags.  It was hoped that in the future supermarkets would relook at all their packaging products with the hope that this could be sorted at source.

 

Councillor Anne Matthews, Llantwit Town Community Council - at the moment I am placing recycling items in different plastic bags.  Is that still the policy from the Council?

 

Yes, at the moment this currently helped the kerbside collection but if plastic bags from supermarkets no longer became available new instructions would be issued.  However if it was difficult for the public to obtain plastic bags from the supermarkets the Council could provide extra containers.  Currently as members of the public only have one container, the Council asked that different elements of recycling are placed in different plastic bags however it was hoped that in the future  the new contract wouldl be able to disseminate the recycling products itself, but at this moment in time the Council still required that  the householder separate their paper and bottles as previously instructed.  The reason for splitting the products was because if cardboard / paper becomes contaminated with bottles their value is reduced. 

 

Local resident, Richard Vidler - I have had great difficulty in obtaining compost bins. I have contacted the Devon number and have had great difficulty in being able to obtain one from them.  Could you please have a word with your suppliers to ensure their telephones are manned properly.

 

Councillor Curtis apologised for the inconvenience,noted the concerns and would endeavour to discuss the matter with the supplier. He also reiterated that the whole purpose of the evening was to speak to residents and to discuss matters together and for any concerns to be addressed accordingly.

 

Roads and Traffic

 

Survey responses had indicated the following topics that were of particular interest to the people of Llantwit Major -

 

·                    the need to clean road signs and ensure they are bilingual

·                    traffic calming measures in Llanmaes

·                    how the new proposals at St. Athan would affect traffic in general

·                    standard of lane and road repairs

·                    the condition of pathways

·                    heavy vehicles using minor roads

·                    street cleaning

·                    routes for cyclists.

 

Members of the public were requested to provide for officers details of any specific examples where sites required cleaning and were informed that in respect of bilingual road signs, these signs were amended whenever the sign had to be replaced.  In respect of traffic calming measures, the minimum criteria had to be met before any measures could be put in place.  In respect of the base at St. Athan the Council would make sure that all the necessary arrangements were in place before the proposal went ahead.  Access arrangements were deemed essential requirements and in particular the railway station and other forms of access had to be considered  e.g. how to link the site to the M4.  The audience was assured that a traffic impact assessment would be undertaken in respect of the new development.  Under the standard of lane and road repairs Councillor Curtis informed the audience that the Vale of Glamorgan had been judged one of the best in Wales and that  £430k had been spent on lane and road repairs in 2006/7.  In respect of heavy vehicles using minor roads the Council could generally deal with width and height restrictions but it had difficulty in placing weight restrictions on the road and in order to do so would have to provide  alternative routes for vehicles.  If the public had any instances that they were aware that required investigation they were requested to inform the local department as appropriate.  In terms of street cleaning, the Council was doing its utmost to educate the public to address the matter e.g. in the centre of Llantwit Major duly noted as Zone 1, this area was cleaned regularly but the Council was trying to concentrate on enforcement and if the public had any specific areas they had problems with they should inform the Council immediately.  Throughout the year 126 fixed notices in respect of litter had been issued, and 1,000 warning notices for littering and dog fouling issued.  A person could be fined £75 on the spot for being caught dropping litter.

 

Routes for Cyclists

 

The Council was committed to the national cycle network and worked closely with Sustrans in promoting alternative forms of transport.  This was also done via Safe Routes to Schools and Safe Routes to Stations.  Resources were limited but the Council was trying to identify all the ways it could in order to promote the message.

 

Questions

Answers

 

Local resident - there are 21 speed bumps that have to be negotiated throughout Llantwit Major.  I think it is excessive and request that the Council does not put in any more speed bumps that go right across the road.  Please look at other alternatives.

 

Speed bumps have a place but careful consideration needs to be made when agreeing to install them.  Different methods will be looked at in the future.

 

Councillor Anne Matthews - Why can’t the speed limit be changed at Beach Road.  We have a problem with boy racers and she hoped it would not take a death before something was done there.

 

The Council could put tapes down to see if the perception was the same as actually what happened and the officer also agreed to  advise the police about the local community’s concerns.

Councillor R Downe – Llantwit Major Town Council  - Could we please have a pedestrian crossing put on Llanmaes Road.  I am aware that it is down to budget but I would like you to reconsider.

 

We will look into the matter and do an up to date survey and assess the criteria.

 

Local resident - please ensure the infrastructure is in place for the St. Athan development.

 

The infrastructure was one of the major issues of the Metrix bid, it had to be in place before the development could go ahead.   A grant had also been provided for a feasibility study on Five Mile Lane.

 

 

Local resident - I am informing you that over recent weeks there have been JCBs on the St. Athan site digging up the fields and I am aware that no planning permission has been agreed.

 

We will pursue your concerns and report back to you.

 

 

Crime and Community Safety

 

Councillor Margaret Alexander, Leader of the Council, apologised for there being no Police presence at the meeting and advised that the Police.had been invited but no apologies had been received.  The concerns that had been received through the survey under this category were listed as:

 

·                    vandalism in the town centre

·                    parking restrictions

·                    policing in the town and

·                    CCTV.

 

Councillor Moore advised that a Task and Finish Group of the Scrutiny Committee Community Wellbeing and Safety had  recently been set up to look at CCTV matters throughout the Vale.  If any of the members of the public had any specific issues in relation to vandalism and police matters, if they could complete the questionnaires  these would be co-ordinated with the Police.  Councillor Gwyn John, also local Member in Llantwit Major, advised that the issues that had been raised had been of great concern to local residents for some time although he stated that he did feel the community was beginning to move forward in particular in relation to the PACT working groups.  The area that was causing most concern was the precinct itself, but however this was private ownership and that had its own problems.  In relation to parking issues within Llantwit Major, the police had recently undertaken “spot checks“ and people had been fined for illegal parking.

 

The Community Safety Partnership had also been involved in working with local youths and outreach workers had been engaged to work with young people.  A local resident was concerned about the lack of representation from the Vale of Glamorgan Council on the PACTs and was advised that PACT meetings had been originally intended for the community and that local councillors had been requested by the police not to attend in order that local residents could deal with matters themselves.  Throughout the Vale PACT meetings had different profiles and some were working well whilst others had really not got off the ground.  A working group had been set up between the Council and the Police to consider ways that PACTs could be more effective and that clear understandings as to who should attend and who should be involved be made.  John Lloyd, local resident, and President of the Llantwit Major Chamber of Trade stated his was over the fact that crime was serious in Llantwit Major but the police couldn’t operate at night unless they were accompanied.  The question of CCTV in the precinct was also raised and although it was deemed a private precinct Members agreed to look into the  concerns ..

 

 

Open Mike Session

 

Question

Answer

 

Headteacher of Llantwit Major Comprehensive School - could you please provide the people of Llantwit Major with the commitment to a date when the school would be built and recognition that the existing building would receive maintenance in the near future?

 

The design consultants would hopefully be appointed by September 2007 with the following proposed schedule of start timesfor schools -

2010 - Cowbridge

2011 - St. Cyres

2011/12 - Llantwit Major

 

Councillor Gibbs reiterated his commitment and the commitment of the Cabinet to fulfil the Schools Investment Strategy and build Llantwit Major a new school.  He however stated that the Investment Strategy was for the whole of the Vale and that the phasing had been undertaken in order to ensure that the Council was not put in financial jeopardy.

 

D.L. Thomas, local resident - If you are in financial deficit, why don’t you reduce your Cabinet and use the  allowances for the Strategy?

 

The Cabinet had been set up to ensure that the relevant portfolios are covered and as such the ten Cabinet Members have considerable portfolios.  Councillor Alexander pointed out that she had appointed the Cabinet herself, who were experienced in the various areas and in her opinion “were doing a good job”.  Councillor Curtis responded by saying that democracy did not come cheap and that gesture politics was not always the answer.

 

Deborah Thomas, local resident and teacher at Llantwit Major Comp -  will you ensure that vending machines in schools etc have healthy options.

 

Councillor Moore responded that at the previous days Cabinet meeting    a report was received where’ vending machines would be installed in Leisure Centres and Cabinet requested that healthy options be put in them. 

 

Councillor R. Dowe, Llantwit Major Town Council - Homes4U policies.  There are currently anomalies with the Homes4U policy.

 

We, as a Council, are interested to hear your comments.  We will be reviewing the policy shortly and would be pleased to receive any suggestions for consideration that you would like to put forward.

 

 

The meeting closed with the Chairman, Councillor Margaret Alexander, thanking everybody for attending and hoped they had found it a productive evening and were satisfied their concerns had been heard.  The audience was reminded that any other matters that they wished to discuss with the Council could be noted on the proformas available in the Hall and written responses would be provided in due course.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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