AUDIT COMMITTEE

 

MINUTES of a meeting held on 26th July, 2007.

 

Present:  Councillor J. Clifford, Mrs. M. Kelly Owen and C.L. Osborne.

 

Also present: Councillors H.J. W. James and N. Moore; Mr. J. Colman, Auditor General. 

 

 

271     CHAIRMAN

 

IN the absence of the Chairman and Vice-Chairman of the Committee, Councillor C.L. Osborne was elected Chairman for the duration of the meeting.

 

 

272     APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE-

 

These were received from Councillors Ms. L. Burnett and E. Hacker.

 

 

273     MINUTES -

 

RECOMMENDED - T H A T the minutes of the meeting held on 3rd July, 2007 be approved as a correct record.

 

 

274     DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST -

 

No declarations were received.

 

 

275     CONSULTATION ON PROPOSED CHANGE OF EXTERNAL AUDITOR APPOINTMENT -

 

Mr. Colman had been invited to appear before the Audit Committee to discuss his proposal to replace the Wales Audit Office as the Council’s external auditor.

By way of background, Mr. Colman explained that it was normal practice for there to be a turnover of Auditors, the principle being that Auditors should not remain in any one place for too long.  The Wales Audit Office had been the Vale of Glamorgan’s auditor for 11 years.

 

Mr. Colman had found himself to be in a position whereby a number of contracts with audit firms were coming to an end, and accordingly a new procurement process was commenced.

 

Three firms had been short listed, and shortly after this, the successful bidder, RMS Robson Rhodes had merged with Grant Thornton.  The award of the contract to RMS Robson Rhodes had followed a complicated process.

 

 

Mr. Colman was advised that the Council had enjoyed a good, professional relationship with the Wales Audit Office.  The Council was embarking on a number of initiatives  i.e. OneVale, Joint Review and concerns were expressed that the newly-appointed firm of auditors could be preoccupied with its merger.  Further, it was noted that RMS Robson Rhodes previous work experience had been based in England, and Members enquired if it would be aware of the Welsh dimension.

 

Mr. Colman stated that he was glad that the Council had experienced a good working relationship with the Wales Audit Office, but nevertheless felt that there was a need for a change.

 

In addition to the appointment of the External Auditor, Mr. Colman stated that he was also responsible for the appointment of a Council’s Relationship Manager.  Whilst the Auditor and Relationship Manager was often the same person, this need not be the case.  Mr. Colman proposed that the Council’s previous Relationship Manager, Gill Lewis, would continue to be the Relationship Manager following the appointment of RMS Robson Rhodes and that this would ensure an element of continuity in the process.

 

Furthermore, Mr. Colman stated that he had every confidence in the abilities of RSM Robson Rhodes.  The Audit Team would be led by John Goulding and John Roberts.  John Goulding had previously worked for the Audit Commission.

 

With regard to the “Welsh dimension”, Mr. Colman advised that, prior to the merger of Grant Thornton and RSM Robson Rhodes, the Grant Thornton bid had been considered excellent but for one point, they did not have a team of staff in place, but would recruit them.  The RMS Robson Rhodes bid had also been considered excellent save for one factor - it did not have a base in Wales, although its staff had Welsh experience.

 

Following the merger of the two firms, the bid from Robson Rhodes appeared to be even stronger, and the newly-appointed Team would have ample experience of working in a Welsh environment.

 

Lastly, Mr. Colman advised that any changes to the Audit Team could only be made with his approval, and if the Auditors did not perform as well as expected, Mr Colman had the power to cancel the contract.

 

Having heard Mr. Colman’s comments, Members of the Committee enquired as to when the new Audit Team would commence its duties, and were advised that although the contract had yet to be formally signed, it was anticipated that it may commence from the 2008/09 financial year (2007/08 audit year).

 

Finally, Members of the Committee thanked Mr. Colman for his reassuring comments.

 

(Note: Councillors James and Moore spoke with the consent of the Committee.)