Agenda Item No.

 

LICENSING SUB-COMMITTEE

 

Minutes of a meeting held on 21st July 2008.

 

Present:  Councillors A.D. Hampton, Mrs. V.M. Hartrey and J.W. Thomas.

 

Also present:

 

Responsible Authorities:  Licensing Officers, Trading Standards Officer and South Wales Police.

 

A copy of the procedure for review hearings was provided for those present at the meeting.

 

 

(a)       Appointment of Chairman -

 

Councillor J. W. Thomas was elected Chairman for the duration of the meeting.

 

 

(b)       Declarations of Interest -

 

No declarations were received.

                       

 

(c)        Licensing Act 2003 - Application for the Review of a Premises Licence held at The Tudor Tavern, Church Street, Llantwit Major -

 

Also present:  Ms. J. Metcalfe and Messrs. D. Coleman, M. Jones, D. Glew & W. Rathore (Solicitor).

 

An application for a review of the premises licence held at the above had been received from South Wales Police under Section 51 of the Licensing Act 2003.  The review had been requested in relation to three of the licensing objectives as detailed below:

 

·                    Public Safety

Statemented evidence from several police officers of broken glass lying on the pedestrian walkway immediately outside the Tudor Tavern on Church Street and in Burial Lane.  Also, statemented evidence from officers reporting numbers of patrons frequently congregating outside and drinking alcohol.  Also reports of patrons entering and exiting through the rear fire doors, which should be closed and secured other than in an emergency.

·                    Crime and Disorder

Serious assault 21:18 hours Monday 31st December 2007 whereby a female customer was glassed. 

Large disturbance 23:30 hours Saturday 13th April 2008 emanating from within the Tudor Tavern spilling out into Church Street during which both a male and female officer were assaulted, requiring hospital treatment.

·                    Protection of Children from Harm.

 

P.C. Barrett, in presenting the application for review, drew attention to the history of the premises and the numerous incidents of anti social behaviour, crime and disorder both inside and outside the premises. In May 2007 the premises had been acquired by the current owners, Admiral Taverns since when the situation had much improved. The Police report, whilst acknowledging that the current owners and management team were “a much valued improvement” on previous regimes, however, proposed various conditions which if attached to the licence and fully implemented would greatly assist the team in significantly addressing the issues outlined under the prevention of crime and disorder objective of the Licensing Act 2003.

 

Mr. Rathore spoke on behalf of the respondents. He spoke of the respondents’ disappointment that the Police had felt it necessary to apply for a review of the premises licence given the close cooperation which the respondents had shown the Police in promptly and voluntarily addressing relevant issues. Both Mr. Coleman and Ms. Metcalfe confirmed their proactive approach in managing the premises and their commitment to ensuring a safe drinking environment for their customers, to control access and egress and to minimise any external disruption. They also questioned the accuracy of the statement above relating to the incident on 13th April 2008.

 

Consideration was then given to the conditions put forward by the Police – should the imposition of any additional conditions be deemed necessary by the Sub-Committee. Members were reminded that any conditions had to be proportionate, necessary and practical.

 

The Sub-Committee then retired to consider the matter in private.

 

Sub-Committee Decision

 

Having considered the application and representations by the Police and the respondents and having considered the DCMS Guidance, the objectives of the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, the Sub-Committee has

 

RESOLVED – THAT the following conditions be attached as contained on pages 32 and 33 of the report and amended below, and that condition (d) as shown on page 32 of the report relating to the internal foyer area be deleted:

 

a)         Installation of a colour CCTV system covering all areas to which the public have access, including external areas and entrances / exits.  This should be done in direct consultation with the Police crime reduction officer.  Responsible Authorities are to be allowed to view the recordings on demand and recordings should be capable of being retained for 31 days.  Copies of the recordings are to be supplied free of charge, and on DVD readable discs.

 

b)         No beverages, alcoholic or other, are permitted to be taken outside from the premises in open containers at any time, or allowed to be carried in from outside.  Additionally, all drinking vessels used on the premises must be of plastic or polycarbonate construction, and all drinks are to be decanted at the point of sale.  Use of all bottles is to be prohibited.

 

c)         The rear entrance door must be secured at all times to the satisfaction of South Wales Police.  This door must be suitably alarmed and monitored and a suitably worded notice should be displayed informing patrons that the door is alarmed and for emergency use only.

 

d)         The DPS or responsible member of staff shall maintain a record of all instances where the external areas, entrances and exits, including the fire exit into Burial Lane, are checked to ensure compliance.

 

e)         The management must operate a Challenge 21 Scheme to combat any underage drinking and accept only photographic, such as passports, drivers licenses or any other approved scheme such as pass approved.

 

f)          The management will not engage in any irresponsible drink promotions that may encourage binge drinking.

 

The Chairman further announced that the Sub-Committee did not consider a reduction in hours to be either necessary or appropriate but that, in respect of condition (d) which the Police had proposed and which stated that “the internal foyer area at the entrance to the premises shall be kept clear and unobstructed at all times when open to the public therefore customers shall not be permitted to congregate in this area” be treated as a recommendation by the Sub-Committee.

 

Reason for decision

 

To have regard to reasons for review and representations made, and to address the same in a reasonable and proportionate manner.

 

 

(d)       Licensing Act 2003 - Application for the Review of a Premises Licence held at Barry Mini Market (aka Dyfan Road Stores, 192 Barry Road, Barry) -

 

Also present: Messrs A. Sateesh and A. Suresh, and Mr. T. Agland (Solicitor).

 

An application for a review of a premises licence at the above address had been received from Trading Standards in relation to two of the licensing objectives, namely the prevention of crime and disorder and the protection of children from harm, being undermined. Representations had also been received from South Wales Police.

 

Mr. Wilkinson, in presenting the application for review, drew attention to the evidence of the sale and supply of alcohol to a young person under the age of 18 on 12th June, 2007 which had occurred on a Trading Standards test purchasing exercise, and to the subsequent prosecution of the then DPS, Mr. Thileepan.  Mr. Wilkinson then referred to the refusals register used at the store and provided by Mr. Thileepan and to the fabricated entries therein; he further explained that there was also doubt about the authenticity of training records provided by Mr. Thileepan. The premises was in close proximity to the Gibbonsdown Estate and areas of Barry Road and Main Street which was a hotspot for crime and disorder in Barry. Mr. Wilkinson, supported by South Wales Police, recommended that sanctions be taken against the business for selling to underage children and forging documentation, proposing a suspension of the licence until relevant measures could be put in place to achieve a legal and fair trading environment. Suggested conditions were contained on pages 9 and 10 of the report.

 

Mr. Agland then replied on behalf of the respondents. He obtained confirmation that only one incident of underage sales had been evidenced despite six attempts having been made under the test purchase scheme in the period May to December 2007. He also obtained confirmation from P.C. Barrett that he was unaware of a change in the franchise since the above incident, that personnel had been removed from the business and that training was now in place. There were three permanent members of staff all of whom were personal license holders who had each had received training which could be evidenced. The person responsible for tampering with the register had been removed  and the register was now completed properly; further a Challenge 21 scheme was already being operated in principle. Mr. Agland expressed concerns relating to the marking of all items of alcohol with a mark unique to the premises, and indicated that the proposed condition relating to formal written authorisation to be given to staff to sell alcohol in the absence of the DPS was unnecessary since a personal licence holder was on the premises at all times. He concluded by stating that suspension was inappropriate since most of the proposed conditions had already been implemented.

 

Further discussion ensued, including the extent of CCTV coverage desirable given the location of the premises, following which the Sub-Committee retired to consider the matter in private.

 

Sub-Committee Decision

 

Having considered the application and representations by the Trading Standards Department, the Police and from the respondents and having considered the DCMS Guidance, the objectives of the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, the Sub-Committee

 

RESOLVED - THAT the following conditions be attached as shown on Pages 9 and 10 of the report save for the condition relating to the marking of all items of alcohol for sale with a permanent mark and the substitution of the condition relating to CCTV with that provided by the Police, the amended conditions being set out below in full:

 

a)         A digital CCTV system is to operate at all times when the premises are open to the public.  The equipment should be to an agreed standard covering all areas to which the public has access. Coverage should include all entrances and exits with coverage extending to the middle of the road to the front of the store and additionally the rear of the store and the side lane.  Images should be retained for 31 days and produced on request of the Police as soon as practicable.

 

b)         To accurately maintain a Refusals Register and this to be made available for examination by Trading Standards and the Police on a regular basis and be cross referenced with the CCTV footage.

 

c)         That a documented training scheme be introduced for all staff which can be inspected by the Police or Trading Standards at any time.

 

d)         That a personal licence holder or suitably trained person be present at the store at all times.

 

e)         That the store operates the Challenge 21 Scheme or similar (to be agreed by Trading Standards).

 

f)          For formal written authorisation to be given to staff to sell alcohol in the absence of the designated premises supervisor.

 

Reason for decision

 

To have regard to the reason for review and the representations made and to address the same in a reasonable and proportionate manner.

 

 

(e)       Licensing Act 2003 - Application for the Review of a Premises Licence held at Costcutter, 17a Merthyr Dyfan Road, Barry -

 

Also present: Mr. P. Patel and Ms. G. Sherratt (Applicant’s representative).

 

An application for a review of the premises licence held at the above address had been received from the Trading Standards Department under Section 51 of the Licensing Act 2003 in relation to two of the licensing objectives, namely the prevention of crime and disorder and the protection of children from harm, being undermined.  Representations had also been received from South Wales Police.

 

Mr. Wilkinson, in presenting the application for review, drew attention to the evidence of the sale and supply of alcohol to young persons under the age of 18 on 12th June and 12th July, 2007 (Trading Standards volunteers) and to the subsequent prosecutions.  Very little evidence of a due diligence defence had been offered by Mr. Patel and Trading Standards had been provided with no evidence of any staff training or documented policies or procedures. The premises was located in close proximity to a secondary school and a large housing estate, raising particular concerns should age restricted products be sold to children. Mr. Wilkinson, supported by the Police, recommended that sanctions be taken against the business for selling twice to children in a short space of time, proposing a suspension of the licence until such measures could be put in place to achieve a legal and fair trading environment. Suggested conditions were contained on pages 9 and 10 of the report.

 

Ms. Sherratt then addressed the Sub-Committee on behalf of the Sub-Committee, accepting that improvements to the management of the business had needed to be made and that the majority of the proposed conditions were also acceptable. She questioned the need for any suspension of the licence, however, since significant changes had already taken place. She further explained that, at the time of the offences taking place, Mr. Patel had assumed the role of DPS at three stores – one of which was located in Porth where high levels of youth problems and where he had concentrated his efforts, spending considerably less time at the Barry premises; Mr. Patel had since shed one of the businesses. She stressed that Mr. Patel had trained his staff but had not documented that training; she could now produce documentary evidence that staff had received training and that three of his staff were qualified personal licence holders. The business was predominantly family run with a few part time workers. Mr. Patel confirmed that he had indeed spread himself too thinly, had not immediately instigated training when he took over the Barry store believing the staff he inherited with the  business to have been trained by the previous manager, and had been disgusted and very disappointed at the occurrence of the incidents for which he had been prosecuted. He stressed his willingness to work with both the Council and the Police to prevent any further problems.

 

Discussion then ensued on the conditions proposed by the TradingStandards Department, supported by the Police. Ms. Sherratt questioned the purpose of introducing a condition requiring the marking of all items of alcohol with a mark unique to the premises and asked that the condition relating to a personal licence holder being present at all times be amended to include “suitably trained person”.

 

The Sub-Committee then retired to consider the matter in private.

 

Sub-Committee Decision

 

Having considered the application and representations made by the Trading Standards Department, the Police and the respondents, and taking into account the objectives and having considered the DCMS Guidance, the objectives of the Licensing Act 2003 and the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy, the Sub-Committee

 

RESOLVED - THAT the following conditions be attached as contained on Page 10 of the report and amended by the Sub-Committee, save for the condition relating to the marking of all items of alcohol which was considered unnecessary to the promotion of the licensing objectives in this location:

 

a)         To install CCTV to cover all entrances to the store, as well as the interior and for this to be inspectable by Trading Standards and the Police on a regular basis.

 

b)         To maintain an accurate Refusals Register and this to be examined by Trading Standards and the Police on a regular basis and be cross referenced with the CCTV footage.

 

c)         That a documented training scheme be introduced for all staff which can be inspected by the Police or Trading Standards at any time.

 

d)         That a personal licence holder or suitably trained person be present at the store at all times.

 

e)         That the store operates the Challenge 21 Scheme or similar (to be agreed by Trading Standards).

 

f)          For formal written authorisation to be given to staff to sell alcohol in the absence of the designated premises supervisor.

 

Reason for decision

 

To have regard to the reason for review and the representations made and to address the same in a reasonable and proportionate manner.