Agenda Item No.

 

VALE OF GLAMORGAN LOCAL ACCESS FORUM

 

MINUTES of a meeting held on 18th June, 2008.

 

Present: Mr. J.V. Custance, Mr. D.J. Field, Mrs. V.M. Hartrey, Mr. J.J. Herbert, Mrs. H. March, Mr. H.S. McMillan, Mr. N. Moss, Mr. R. Pittard and Mr. R. Traherne.

 

Mr. J. Wyatt (Chairman); Mr. B. Guy, Mr. C. Jones-Jenkins and Mrs. S. Thomas (VOGC).

 

 

Action

(a)     Appointment of Chairman -

 

In accordance with the procedure set out in Regulation 12 of the Countryside Access (Local Access Forums) (Wales) Regulations 2001, Jeff Wyatt reminded the LAF that the previous Chairman had now resigned and, accordingly, sought nominations for Chairman.  The term of office of the new Chairman would be until the demise of the current LAF in November 2008.  The sole nominee put forward subsequently declined to accept the nomination and, following consideration of an alternative option, namely that the current Deputy Chairman assume the Chair for the remainder of the current LAF, it was unanimously

 

AGREED - T H A T the current Deputy Chairman assume the Chair for the remaining meetings.

 

(b)     Apologies for Absence -

 

These were received from Mr. D. Hopkin, Mrs. M. Morgan, Mr. R. Simpson and Mrs. V. Warlow; Ms. S. Tindall (CCW).

 

(c)     Minutes -

 

AGREED - T H A T the minutes of the meeting held on 16th January, 2008 be approved as a correct record.

 

In response to a question relating to Valeways, Bob Guy confirmed that consideration was ongoing as to how best to continue supporting Valeways, given the invaluable contribution the organisation made. 

 

(d)     Coastal Access Improvement Programme -

 

In response to concerns expressed by John Custance in relation to footpaths in the Marcross / Monknash area, in particular, references to Blaen-y-Cwm under Map 6 in the minutes of the previous meeting, Chris Jones-Jenkins agreed that it would be necessary for his team to have a further look at the areas in question.

 

In response to a question from Heather March, Bob Guy confirmed that the position in relation to the use of existing slipways to access beaches at Ogmore, Dunraven and Cwm Colhuw was currently being addressed. 

 

An update was given of the present position in relation to the preparation of the Coastal Access Improvement Programme (CAIP). A revised list of what were considered achievable CAIP schemes was circulated (drawn up having regard to the advice of the consultant and to accord with current Countryside Council for Wales (CCW) thinking with the aim that they would be more likely to attract funding than the original list).  Bob Guy confirmed that the list was aspirational and would act as the framework on which funding bids would be based for the 5 year programme; the LAF would help inform the development of that programme. Officers explained that the content of the list was substantially the same as that first considered by the LAF in January 2008 but that schemes had largely been condensed/ refined to match more closely CCW criteria. Given that Members of the LAF would have insufficient time to re-assess each scheme fully at the meeting, the proposal made that officers be supported in promoting the reduced list and report back to the next meeting of the LAF was accepted. Views were, however, expressed questioning the value of LAF contributions given the very late submission of this comprehensive list. Bob Guy reaffirmed that the views of the LAF as a body were taken on board as well as those expressed by individual LAF Members and other consultees/ stakeholders; indeed, the vast majority of the content of the list had been arrived at as a consequence of consultation. Members were asked to contact the Public Rights of Way Team with any further proposals as soon as possible. The LAF would be involved in the review of the annual programme prior to the submission of funding bids. As indicated above, a progress report would be submitted to the next meeting for consideration, following which site visits would be undertaken of selected areas.

 

During the course of discussion on the content of the revised list, Chris Jones-Jenkins confirmed that were Pont-y-Werin not to be constructed there would be alternative access and that discussions were ongoing with Cardiff Council regarding cross border issues. Concern was expressed generally at the difficulties experienced in Cardiff with Associated British Ports (ABP) in obtaining access along the coast itself and to similar difficulties being anticipated in a few years in Barry and further along the South Wales coastline. Proposals to help resolve the matter included an approach to ABP from the LAF either directly or in conjunction with Cardiff LAF, and by means of this Council’s Cabinet. It was subsequently agreed that the Secretary contact the Chairman of the National Access Forum on this point in order that a co-ordinated approach might be adopted.

 

Other matters raised during consideration of the CAIP included the issue of “access for all”, the question being asked as to what percentage was envisaged.  Chris Jones-Jenkins indicated that that provision would be concentrated in Barry and Penarth where access already existed, the aim being also  to retain the rural nature of the western Vale whilst effecting improvements suitable to that environment.  Discussion briefly took place on other locations where it was proposed that access for all could be successfully effected. The LAF would be notified of further details as to the level of access for all which would eventually be included in the published CAIP.

 

AGREED – THAT current position be noted and the actions agreed progressed.

 

(e)     LAF Volunteers Performance Indicators Survey: 2007 -

 

As indicated in the report, preparations had been made for a 5% random sample survey in addition to the regular one (thereby increasing the annual sample rate to 10% in line with an action point included in the ROWIP). However, of the initial six volunteers, only four had completed their allocations; the results of the survey undertaken in August/September2007, therefore, represented a 3.64% sample. Graphs were circulated indicating the percentage of Public Right of Way that was easy to use within the Vale and the percentage of the number of paths signposted from the road.  Whilst the signposting resulted did not differ widely from the results of the Ramblers Association survey, there was a wide discrepancy between the two surveys in respect of “easy to use” for which no reasons were immediately apparent.

 

AGREED -  THAT a similar exercise be undertaken in the late summer/autumn of 2008 with a view to completing a regular Performance Indicator survey every year to supplement the spring 5% return, it being noted that the following Members of the LAF had volunteered their services:

Mr. Custance, Mr. Field, Mrs. Hartrey, Mr. Herbert, Mr. McMillan, Mr. Moss and Mr. Pittard.

 

(f)     Annual Report 2007/08 -

 

Consideration was given to the draft Annual Report which had been circulated prior to the meeting. Whilst recognising the time and effort expended on the preparation of the document, questions were raised as to who comprised the target audience and whether the information contained therein was presented in such a way as to attract that audience, given in part that much of the information within the draft report could be obtained from reading the minutes of the LAF meetings which were already available both in hard and electronic format.  Jeff Wyatt explained that the production of an Annual Report was a statutory requirement and had, therefore, to contain certain elements.  He readily accepted, however, that a better way of engaging the public’s attention might be to publish short and snappy newsletters on the Council’s website or in hard copy through Valewaves. In the interim the content of the current annual report would be reduced, focussing on headline news over the last year and achievable aims and objectives; in addition, the report would reflect the current position since those aims and objectives were subject to change over the course of time for various reasons. The revised report would also indicate to readers where to find more detailed information on the membership and work of the LAF should they wish further information. The revised version would be circulated by e-mail for Members’ attention.

 

AGREED – THAT the Secretary revise the draft report as indicated above.

 

(g)     Next Meeting -

 

It was agreed that the next meeting would take place in the Visitor Centre at Cosmeston at 6pm on 24th September, 2008. A representative from Valeways would be invited to attend in order that the LAF could better assess the position as regards continuing support to and from Valeways.  It was also anticipated that the agenda would contain a progress report on the ROWIP.  In response to suggestions made, it was also agreed that Members meet at 5.00 p.m. for a walk around Cosmeston. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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