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SCRUTINY COMMITTEE (ECONOMY AND ENVIRONMENT)

 

Minutes of an extraordinary meeting held on 23rd March, 2010.

 

Present:  Councillor C.J. Williams (Chairman); Councillor Mrs. M. Kelly Owen (Vice-Chairman); Councillors J.C. Bird, R.F. Curtis, G. John, Mrs. A.J. Preston, Mrs. S.I. Sharpe, R.P. Thomas, M.R. Wilson and Ms. M. Wright.

 

Also present:  Councillors A.M. Ernest, Mrs. V.M. Hartrey, N.P. Hodges, H.J.W. James and R.L. Traherne.

 

 

1037   APOLOGY FOR ABSENCE -

 

This was received from Councillor Ms. M.E. Alexander.

 

 

1038   DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST -

 

Councillor R.F. Curtis declared an interest in Agenda Item No. 4 in that Dr. Jonathan Hicks was his step-brother. 

 

 

1039   3RD QUARTER PERFORMANCE MONITORING REPORTS -

 

(i)       Strategy and Support -

 

The Operational Manager presented the report to the Scrutiny Committee highlighting that there were currently no issues of concern and all PIs were on target. 

 

RECOMMENDED - T H A T the 3rd Quarter Performance Monitoring Report for Strategy and Support be noted.

 

Reason for recommendation

 

In order that effective Scrutiny was undertaken.

 

 

(ii)       Fleet Cleaning and Security -

 

With regard to Performance Indicator L807Q (the average number of working days/shifts lost per full time equivalent Building and Vehicle Services employee due to sickness absence) the Head of Service advised that it was anticipated that the target would not be met.  Members raised concerns regarding the target but were advised that long term sickness was an issue but that there were genuine absences although in some instances advisory notices had been issued.  In considering the report it was subsequently

 

RECOMMENDED - T H A T the 3rd Quarter Monitoring Report for Fleet Cleaning and Security Services be noted.

 

Reason for recommendation

 

In order that effective Scrutiny was undertaken.

 

 

(iii)       Planning and Transportation -

 

In presenting the report the Head of Service referred  to PI PLA/004e (the percentage of all applications subject to Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) determined within 16 weeks) and advised that performance for 2008/9 was 23.1 with the target for 2009/10 at 25.  The procedure for dealing with applications was to allow 21 days for consultation but this was dependent on the size of applications as for larger schemes consultation with a number of agencies may be required which would then take considerably longer. In view of this Members raised the issue of the rationale for the PI but were advised that the Welsh Assembly Government had advised that they had no intention of making any changes to the PI and as such the PI would remain fro the foreseeable future.  Members took the opportunity to congratulate the Head of Service in relation to the sickness figures for the service area as they were well below the target for 2009/10.  It was therefore

 

RECOMMENDED - T H A T the Planning and Transportation Quarterly Monitoring Report be noted.

 

Reason for recommendation

 

In order that effective Scrutiny was undertaken.

 

 

(iv)      Visible Services -

 

In referring to PI WMT/001i (NS14) (the percentage of municipal waste reused and/or recycled) although the status for the PI was shown as red the Head of Service advised that the figures were still above the Welsh average.  As the Green Waste service would cover the whole of the Vale by the end of 2010/11, he was confident that for PI WMT/002 (NS15) (the percentage of biodegradable municipal waste sent to landfill), the Department could improve on the figure by 10%.  Members queried the possibility of Local Authorities having to pay fines if they did not increase the percentage of waste recycled. The Head of Service advised that the Welsh Assembly Government had not decided whether any individual Councils would be charged as yet.  In order to try to increase recycling figures Councils would have to increase public participation and as such a marketing strategy would have to be implemented aimed at encouraging participation.  Members queried the popularity of the Kitchen Waste Recycling Service and were informed that there were more requests for the service than letters of opposition to it.  There was concern from some Members in relation to the change to the black bag collection times and the possible increase in fly tipping.  Members were informed that there was no noticeable increase in black bag fly tipping, though three enforcement officers were on hand to manage any problems as necessary.  If required the Department would employ more Enforcement Officers from the Welsh Assembly Grant it had received to deal with the matter.  Some members commented that they had recently visited the Cowbridge Compost Centre and stated that it was an excellent service and they took the opportunity to encourage any member of the public to visit to familiarise themselves with the processes being undertaken. 

 

In referring to Sickness Absence performance indicators the Head of Service informed Committee that long term sickness issues were prevalent within the service area but that at present performance was slightly up from previous years. 

 

RECOMMENDED - T H A T the 3rd Quarter Performance Monitoring Report for Visible Services be noted.

 

Reason for recommendation

 

In order that effective Scrutiny was undertaken.

 

 

(v)       Economic Development and Leisure -

 

The Chairman took the opportunity to wish the Head of Service, Mr. Christopher Fray, all the best in his retirement and thanked him on behalf of the Scrutiny Members for all the work and support he had given to the Council in his years of service. 

 

In referring to the Monitoring report Members were advised of the results of a Public Opinion Survey that had been undertaken and noted that 74% of users had recorded they were very satisfied with the service and 25% recorded as fairly satisfied.  With regard to sickness figures he advised that there were some members of staff who were due to have planned operations which would then have an impact on the figures.  With regard to L643Q (the percentage of employees that leave the employment of Economic Development and Leisure during the year) the figures were somewhat inflated due to the fact that casual employees had to be recorded to which Members of the Scrutiny Committee requested that the PI be amended to not include these figures as they distorted the overall position. 

 

With regard to visitor numbers to leisure centres it was suggested that the authority needed to be more aggressive in its marketing techniques, in particular to encourage more adult classes.  Members were advised that the Sports Council Initiative that had recently been introduced provided a Sports Officer in every comprehensive school and this had encouraged a lot more younger people to access the gyms which had proved to be a very good initiative.  It was suggested that it would be useful for the Committee to receive a presentation from a Sports Development Officer and following the presentation of the report the Committee subsequently

 

RECOMMENDED -

 

(1)       T H A T the Economic Development and Leisure 3rd Quarter Monitoring Report be noted.

 

(2)       T H A T a presentation from a Sports Development Officer to Scrutiny Committee Members takes place within the next financial year (i.e. 2010/11).

 

(3)       T H A T congratulations and best wishes of the Scrutiny Committee be afforded to Chris Fray, Head of Service for Economic Development and Leisure for his long service to the Council and that he have a long and healthy retirement.

 

Reasons for recommendations

 

(1)       In order that effective full Scrutiny is undertaken.

 

(2)       To apprise Members.

 

(3)       To extend the Committee's appreciation.

 

 

1040    VALE OF GLAMORGAN MUSEUM: OPTIONS AND COSTS (DEER) -

 

The purpose of the report was to investigate the options and related costs of setting up a Vale of Glamorgan Heritage Museum located in Barry.  Councillor R.F. Curtis had requested consideration of the above matter for the following reasons:

 

·          "Barry and the wider Vale of Glamorgan had a proud and varied history and Councillor Curtis believed that that history should be available to visitors and residents alike.

·          Barry was the biggest town in Wales and deserved a permanent place in which to display its history for future generations.

·          The report should also contain a reference to potential funding partners including possible Section 106 Agreements from future large developments."

 

Councillor Curtis further advised that he was a “Barrian born and bred and was very proud of the history of the town.”  He stated that Barry had been at the forefront of the industrial revolution and at one time had been the largest coal exporter in the whole of the world.  During the two world wars Barry had also played a vital role in the war effort. 

 

The request had also included the suggestion that local history enthusiasts be invited to a Scrutiny Committee to provide evidence in relation to the establishment of such a facility.  To this end the Chairman of the Scrutiny Committee had agreed to representations being made to Committee and to include a presentation by Dr. Jonathan Hicks and Mr. Adrian Pitman.

 

Dr. Hicks, prior to his presentation, circulated a copy of the Vale of Glamorgan's Heritage Centre Coalition (March 2010) Strategy document for information, to all present.

 

In making the presentation Dr. Hicks and Mr. Adrian Pitman stated that the  Vale Heritage Centre Coalition was a coalition of historians and others who had combined together to establish a centre for the Vale's history.  The purpose of the Coalition being to try to convince the Vale Council that as part of the future development of Barry Waterfront, a heritage centre funded through Section 106 and built by the Barry Waterfront Consortium should be built to house the story of the history of the Vale of Glamorgan.  The benefits of such a facility for the Vale would be to

 

·          bring visitors to the Vale

·          form a local identity

·          encourage community involvement

·          to provide a knowledge bank of information.

 

It would also be important to work with other partners such as other local history societies across the Vale to ensure an equitable representation of all parts of the Vale's history.  In relation to funding for such a provision reference was made to Section 106 Agreements and to the £9 million Regeneration Fund provided for Barry.  In presenting the business case for the project it was also suggested that further funding should be considered from / by the following:

 

·          a gift shop

·          a cafe

·          donations

·          possible membership scheme

·          local business donations

·          lottery funding

·          exhibition room rental fees.

 

The Coalition was fully aware of the Waterfront Consortium and in particular  to arts development on the Waterfront which had been allocated 1% of the budget for Waterfront public art.  They requested that a feasibility study be carried out by the Vale of Glamorgan Council to consider the establishment of a heritage centre more fully. 

 

The Head of Service advised that for any significant projects a feasibility study was an important consideration which would form an essential basis for the business plan.  However, he pointed out that there was little sense in spending community energy time and funds on a project that may be doomed to fail from the outset by lack of demand, lack of funds and lack of ability to deliver the necessary elements.  Any feasibility study that would be undertaken would be to assess one or more of the following aspects of a proposal

 

·          commercial viability

·          the level of annual subsidy required

·          economic/community impact

·          technical feasibility

·          compare different options

·          to assess whether there was a viable use for a community asset.

 

The report also highlighted that the Council already made a substantial contribution to local heritage and arts by virtue of its support for Dyffryn Gardens, Cosmeston Medieval Village and Arts Central as well as grant aid to community facilities such as the Washington Gallery and Cowbridge Museum.  He further advised that a museum would be an expensive operation to establish both in capital and revenue terms at any time but would be a particular drain on the Council's funding at a time of public sector funding pressures and it would be important that any group who was interested in establishing a museum investigates the funding options available.  The report informed Committee that the Council at present did not have any Section 106 contributions for heritage and it was too early to assess the likely contributions from any further development of the Waterfront, Barry.  It was also noted that a regimental museum had been proposed as part of the Defence Technical College at St. Athan. 

 

Other local historians present at the meeting were afforded the opportunity to speak and made representations as detailed below:

 

·          Cowbridge and District Local History Society

 

Mr. D. Buswell stated that the Cowbridge and District Local History Society could see a heritage centre as an opportunity to unite all the areas within the Vale of Glamorgan through history which would provide a sense of identity and belonging for all.  He particularly referred to assisting with leisure time and providing opportunities for all members of the public to visit such a unique  facility which would serve all. 

 

·          Dinas Powys

 

Mr. J Wilmott advised that the Dinas Powys Society had been founded over 36 years ago and that a number of exhibits available in for Dinas Powys required housing in order for them to be displayed.  There were also a considerable number of historians in Dinas Powys who would no doubt offer their support and contribute to such a development and he urged the Council to consider the issue fully.

 

·          Llantwit Major Local History Society

 

Mr. N Williams referred to the local history of Llantwit Major and the current facility that had been established within the town and advised that a heritage centre would further encapsulate the project and present the heritage of the Vale to visitors alike.  It was an opportunity to ensure that the Vale's heritage was looked after and exhibits arranged in order for the public to have an opportunity to visit.  The Llantwit Major History Society was fully in support of a Vale wide Centre. 

 

·          Penarth Local History Society

 

Mr. B Fisher reiterated that Penarth was also committed to a centre for the Vale.  He referred to the Pier as a national heritage which needed to be fully maintained as part of history and stated that the Vale needed a centre that would represent all communities. 

 

The representative from Pride in Barry, Mr. P. Haley, also informed the Scrutiny Committee that the group, Pride in Barry, were fully in support of the  principle of a heritage centre and that there was substantial information / documentation of Barry's history that needed to be remembered. 

 

Members of the Committee expressed their appreciation to the local history enthusiasts who were endeavouring to ensure that the history of the Vale was maintained and that a centre could be a way to attract visitors to the area and be a strong focal point.  They also referred made to the establishment of a heritage centre that included links with other satellite collections throughout the Vale. 

 

The Cabinet Member for Planning and Transportation congratulated all present on taking part in the debate and he suggested that in his opinion a feasibility study should be undertaken by the charitable organisation, aided and advised by the Council.  He would also welcome a further meeting with the Coalition and the Leader of the Council to discuss the issues. 

 

Councillor Curtis, in responding thanked the Chairman and the Scrutiny Committee for agreeing to debate the issue and urged the Committee to support a Vale of Glamorgan Centre for all.  He stated that in his opinion the Council should play a key part in any feasibility study in view of all the professional information and experience that the Council could call upon in undertaking such a study. 

 

The Cabinet Member for Economic Development and Regeneration, Councillor R.L. Traherne, stated that he too was fully supportive of the project but advised that with regard to the Barry Regeneration Fund money it was unclear at present how the money would be used. 

 

Members were pleased to note that a number of members of the public were present to listen to the debate and thanked all for attending.  The consensus of opinion was that a feasibility study should be undertaken and having fully considered the report and all representations made, the Scrutiny Committee subsequently;

 

RECOMMENDED -

 

(1)       T H A T Cabinet be requested to look into the funding of a feasibility study to investigate the options and related costs of setting up a Vale of Glamorgan Heritage Museum and to include support for satellite collections in other towns and villages within the Vale of Glamorgan.

 

(2)       T H A T the public be thanked for their attendance and the speakers congratulated on their comprehensive representations and for their contributions to the discussions.

 

Reasons for recommendations

 

(1)       To consider the matter further.

 

(2)       To acknowledge attendance and representations made.

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