Minutes of a meeting held on 21st November, 2012.




Mr. J. Harrison

Environment Agency Wales

Dr. S. Howard

Countryside Council for Wales

Mr. C. Lyons

Cardiff Bay Yacht Club

Ms. S. Newbold

British Marine Federation / RYA

Mr. A. Parker


Councillor G. Roberts

Penarth Town Council

Mr. D. Williams

Cardiff Yacht Club


Also present:


Mr. S. Howell

Cardiff Harbour Authority

Mr. C. Hope

Vale of Glamorgan Council



(a)       Chairman –


In the unavoidable absence of both the Chairman and Vice-Chairman of the Advisory Committee, Mr. A. Parker was elected Chairman for the meeting.



(b)       Apologies for Absence -


These were received from Councillor L. Burnett (Vale of Glamorgan Council) (Chairman), Councillor D. Huw Thomas (Cardiff Council), Mr. S. Jones (Quay Marinas Ltd.), Mr. T. Rees (Glamorgan Anglers), Councillor A. Govier (Cardiff Council) and Mrs. C. Dimond (Vice-Chairman).



(c)        Minutes -


AGREED - T H A T the minutes of the meeting held on 19th September, 2012 be accepted as a correct record.



(d)       Matters Arising –


In referring to the incident involving Optimist sailing dinghies which had occurred in April, Mr. Lyons stated that he was the President of the Yacht Club and was unaware that the Harbour Authority had suggested that Bay users were advised to use Channel 18 for communications with Barrage Control.  He indicated that the Club had not been made aware of this nor had any communication from the Harbour Authority since the incident that this item referred to.  Mr. Lyons said that the Club used Channel 37 and could not scan Channel 18 which was the same for other users in the Bay.


Mr. Howell said that the recommendation for users of the Bay to listen in to Channel 18 had been in place since the Barrage was first operational and is clearly indicated in the published Bay Users’ Guide, website and in discussions with clubs and users of the Bay.  The incident had been investigated and the outcome communicated to the Club and he would forward a copy of this to Mr. Lyons and, if the scanning of Channel 18 is not practical, then there needs to be an alternative method of communication established with Barrage Control so that incidents of this nature can be properly dealt with.


Mr. Howell felt that it was important to resolve any issues as quickly as possible and, if after seeing the communication with the Club, Mr. Lyons needed a further meeting to address this, it would be arranged. 


Ms. N. Newbold suggested that any discussions also involve Cardiff Bay Yacht Club. 



(e)       Navigational Safety – Cardiff Harbour Authority - Mr. Simon Howell –


The pontoon had been installed for the South Wales Fire and Rescue boat on the Barrage.  The vessel would be moved from its current mooring in Penarth Marina when the required staff training was fully completed in the new year.  It would then become fully operational, improving response times to search and rescue emergencies that may occur in the Bay.


The Harbour Authority had been dealing with an abandoned vessel, the “Shark” which was formerly known as the “Greitja”.  This former fishing vessel was served with a detention notice by the Marine coastguard Agency when it was berthed in Brixham Harbour as it was considered unsafe to take to sea.  It was brought to Cardiff by its then owner who was recently found guilty of breaching the impoundment order and fined for this offence.


The Marine Coastguard Agency had issued a detention notice to prevent its removal from Cardiff and the Harbour Authority was in the process of getting this lifted to enable its removal to an authorised breaker’s yard which should take place within the next few weeks.



(f)         Progress Update - Cardiff Harbour Authority - Mr. Simon Howell -


Water quality in the Bay had remained above the statutory level of 5mg/l over the past two months.  No algae or midge emergence issues were likely now over the winter period.  This will mean that there has been only one larvicide application this year with the next application likely to be required in March next year.


The Barrage had operated effectively over the past two months without any deterioration in the bascule bridges since the temporary repairs had been undertaken.  The design of the permanent repair had been completed and tenders were being sought for this work.  The first bridge repair would take place in January with the other two following on straight after.  This would ensure that there were two operational bridges, which should minimise any disruption to boat access and pedestrians and cyclists.


Two sluice roller bearings were also being repaired at the moment, and this work should be completed in the next two weeks.


The Welsh National Indoor Rowing Championships would take place at Channel View Centre on Saturday 1st December, and the Welsh Schools Championships taking place the day before, Friday 30th November.


Planning of next year’s events programme was also underway with Extreme Sailing returning together with the World Cup Slalom Event in Cardiff International White Water, both for the second year in succession.


The application for Cardiff to host the 2017/18 Volvo Ocean Race had recently been submitted following support from Welsh Government, Associated British Ports, the Yacht Clubs and a range of other supporters.  A decision on the host cities would be made next month.



(g)       Update Report - Environment Agency – Mr. John Harrison -


Mr. Harrison advised that there were no environmental issues to report to the Advisory Committee.


Since the last meeting of the Advisory Committee, familiarisation sessions had been undertaken to raise awareness of the environmental situation in the Bay with staff of the Agency.  It was felt that the sessions had proved to be useful. 



(h)          Information Reports –


Committee received two reports which had been presented to the Executive of Cardiff Council as follows:


-               land at Callaghan Square – considered on 8th November 2012

-               bid for Cardiff to host the Volvo Ocean Round the World Race – considered on 18th October 2012.


AGREED – T H A T the contents of the reports be noted.



(i)            Date of Next Meeting –


AGREED – T H A T the next meeting be held on 16th January 2013 at 5.15 p.m. in the Cardiff Harbour Authority Offices.